Reilly, you're a good man. Most Uber and Lyft passengers will keep drivers waiting though for a few minutes or even beyond the 5 minute window.
It's nice that waymo will wait 5 minutes but it does come at a cost. This hurts waymos utilization so you are indirectly paying for it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Waymo eventually shift to a two minute grace period and then you start paying per minute that it waits similar to what Uber and Lyft do. Waymo already limits to two minutes waiting at pick ups in busy intersections.
Parking is bad for cities but I do think cruising is worse. We analyzed waymos waiting vs parking time based off cpuc data and did find that parking time during period 1 is coming down from 80% to now 53.3% of the time.
Millard-Ball's paper was frankly quite poor, and I debunked it back then. That said, I think all use of the roads should be charged for -- driving, sitting at the curb, standing, parking. Politically, though, that's unlikely to happen.
However, the charge should be and would be very small, unless it's artificially inflated to enforce policies rather than based on economics. So sure, you might have to pay a few cents a minute for your car to wait for you at the curb (after all, street parking today is usually charged at 3-5 cents/minute at most) but is that going to make you in a hurry to get in? Truth is the cost of just holding the vehicle is much more. The robotaxi company could charge you for that but they are not going to as customers would hate it, and companies like happy customers.
This was a good read, but “pauking” is a terrible term. It doesn’t roll off the tongue, it’s clunky as hell. Let’s go back to the drawing board on that one.
Reilly, you're a good man. Most Uber and Lyft passengers will keep drivers waiting though for a few minutes or even beyond the 5 minute window.
It's nice that waymo will wait 5 minutes but it does come at a cost. This hurts waymos utilization so you are indirectly paying for it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Waymo eventually shift to a two minute grace period and then you start paying per minute that it waits similar to what Uber and Lyft do. Waymo already limits to two minutes waiting at pick ups in busy intersections.
Parking is bad for cities but I do think cruising is worse. We analyzed waymos waiting vs parking time based off cpuc data and did find that parking time during period 1 is coming down from 80% to now 53.3% of the time.
https://www.thedriverlessdigest.com/p/how-waymo-spends-its-time-between?r=9bys&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
https://www.intertraffic.com/news/smart-mobility/orchestration-as-a-service
Millard-Ball's paper was frankly quite poor, and I debunked it back then. That said, I think all use of the roads should be charged for -- driving, sitting at the curb, standing, parking. Politically, though, that's unlikely to happen.
However, the charge should be and would be very small, unless it's artificially inflated to enforce policies rather than based on economics. So sure, you might have to pay a few cents a minute for your car to wait for you at the curb (after all, street parking today is usually charged at 3-5 cents/minute at most) but is that going to make you in a hurry to get in? Truth is the cost of just holding the vehicle is much more. The robotaxi company could charge you for that but they are not going to as customers would hate it, and companies like happy customers.
This was a good read, but “pauking” is a terrible term. It doesn’t roll off the tongue, it’s clunky as hell. Let’s go back to the drawing board on that one.
I knew I was going to disappoint someone today
AI-dling?